Showing posts with label #Apostles. Show all posts
Showing posts with label #Apostles. Show all posts

Tuesday, November 28, 2023

Satire: Church Community Vs Church - New PIMO Guide By Ananias and Sapphira

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Church Community vs Church - New PIMO Guide

by Ananias and Sapphira

Some people might say we're playing church, but that's not fair... we don't actually believe it.  I mean, we liked Jesus, but these apostles... they're just an organization of imperfect men.  We're Physically In Mentally Out.  PIMO.

That's not to say we don't enjoy hanging out.  We still go to all the meetings.  We still like all the people who believe (even though we wish they didn't believe).  We just have a few reservations.

Take, for example, this practice of "having all things in common..."  Seems like a greedy play for our stuff... which we are not OK with...  But we can't just come out and say that without revealing that we actually hate the church and everything it stands for...

But since the church is just run by men - we've got a great plan.  We can sell our stuff, and then only give part of what we got to the church.  And Simon "denied Christ" Peter will never know, because he's just an imperfect man - not Jesus.

Anyway, if you follow our lead, you too can enjoy the benefits of church community without having to believe in the actual church.  NO POSSIBLE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES!  Because even if there are rumors about us not paying the full amount, it's not like God would strike us down for not supporting a church run by men...

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Sunday, April 11, 2021

Ward Preacher Podcast Ep 120 - Unity vs Diversity

This week our Come Follow Me curriculum brings us to D&C 37-40.  We discuss gathering, diversity, and unity.  Study with me!

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Sunday, February 21, 2021

Ward Preacher Podcast Ep 113 - The Worth Of An Enemy Is Great In The Sight Of God

This week, our Come Follow Me curriculum brings us to D&C 18-19.  We discuss how a person can be lower than the dust of the earth, and at the same time of great worth in the sight of God.  Study with me!


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Monday, October 5, 2020

Ward Preacher Podcast Ep 93 - Brief thoughts about General Conference

 This week, our Come Follow Me curriculum is extended to allow for the study of General Conference addresses.  While I have a lot of thoughts about the messages shared, this is a brief message describing how many of the talks connected together for me.


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Tuesday, October 1, 2019

A Unity of the Faith

Unity is a major theme in Paul's epistles to the Ephesians... from describing how Christ abolishes the enmity between Jews and Gentiles, to this passage in chapter 4:

"There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men... And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;" (Ephesians 4:4-8,11-14)

The idea of a single Christian faith was the goal of Catholic church...  The very term comes from Greek καθολικός (katholikos), meaning "universal."

 Unfortunately, at the time when the church gathered its leaders from all around the Mediterranean in Nicaea in AD 325, the apostles were gone... the highest authorities that remained were local bishops of various congregations, lacking not only the office that Jesus designated to lead his church, but also the authority that extended to all places to which they traveled... general authority.

As time progressed, the leadership of these men led to schisms and protests over centuries rather than the "One Lord, one faith, one baptism" that the apostle Paul taught.

Today, there are thousands of churches that profess belief in Jesus Christ.  There are numerous modes of baptism.  Various Christian faiths still debate over the most fundamental requirements of salvation.  While some claim that the thousands of versions of faith, and of Christ himself, are all facets of a single church, if this were the case, it would be the greatest manifestation of the "house divided against itself" that was described by Jesus. 

Claiming that Christianity is united in a single church is like finding a shattered mirror at a store that has been partly pieced together with scotch tape and labeled "definitely not broken." Even those with the best of intentions have found themselves "tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine" clutching only shattered pieces of the whole that Christ established with his apostles and prophets.

Is there a solution to unify Christianity?  What would it take to achieve actual ecumenicism?

The apostle Paul explains how the Lord intended to accomplish this feat:

"...he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers... till we all come in the unity of the faith..."

Some people might misunderstand the passage to mean that he gave to some people apostles, and to other people prophets, and to others evangelists, and others pastors and teachers... and so long as you have one of these, you're good.  This is incorrect.

The word "some" is in the accusative case... meaning it is the direct object.  In other words, it could be translated "he gave some to be apostles, and some to be prophets, and some to be evangelists..."  He made available men with these offices, to accomplish that Paul described after.

As important as this understanding is... perhaps the most important understanding is the pronoun he... the one doing the giving... The he is the Lord himself... and as always... he is the solution.

THE LORD calls apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, and evangelists.  His Kingdom is not one of confusion, it is one of order.  He spent great length prescribing the construction of Noah's ark, of the Tabernacle of Moses, of the Ark of the Covenant, and of Nephite and Jaredite vessels.  He detailed precise directions for the children of Israel in the wilderness, and for Joshua's men to march around Jericho, and for Brigham Young to lead the pioneers in the west.  He patiently repeated his messages to Jonah regarding Nineveh, to Jerusalem regarding Babylon, and to Joseph Smith regarding the retrieval of the plates.  He deliberately and carefully divided even his labors in forging the world on which we now stand.  To suggest that any old schmo could just say "yeah, I'm going to be a pastor now," is contrary to the way he has directed his work for thousands of years.

Fortunately, there are apostles and prophets, called by the Lord, that preside over his church today.  Heeding their counsel will, as Paul suggested, lead to the perfecting of the saints, the work of the ministry, the edifying of the body of Christ.  Following their teachings will aid all in coming to a unity of faith, a knowledge of the Son of God, and offer protection from those who would, by cunning craftiness, lie in wait to deceive.

What was inaccessible to the ancient bishops who assembled in Nicaea in AD 325, is now available to you freely.  Do not neglect the privilege of your access to the apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, and evangelists that he has called to help you find the one true Lord, the one true faith, and the one true baptism that will lead you on His strait and narrow covenant path.

Sunday, July 28, 2019

Ward Preacher Podcast Ep 30 - You are more than your circumstances

This week's Come Follow Me curriculum brings us to Acts 16-21.  Paul triumphs over circumstance by not letting prison get him down, and finding teaching opportunities everywhere.  Study with me!

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Sunday, July 14, 2019

Ward Preacher Podcast Ep 29 - The Purpose Of A Chosen People

This week, the Come Follow Me curriculum brings us to Acts 10-15.  We focus on the revelations that brought the preaching of the gospel of Jesus Christ to the gentiles, and why there was a chosen people to begin with.  Study with me!

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Sunday, July 7, 2019

Ward Preacher Podcast Ep 028 - A Dramatic Turnaround

This week, the Come Follow Me curriculum takes us through the ministry of Stephen and the conversion of Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus.  Study with me!

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Friday, July 5, 2019

Applying Gamaliel's Test

The ministry of the apostles begins in the Come Follow Me curriculum this week (Acts 1-5), and the apostles open their work with power and authority.

After being threatened and arrested by the Sanhedrin for preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, Peter and John immediately went and preached more of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Naturally, the council was was infuriated by their blatant disregard, and had them thrown in prison.  An angel of God came and freed them, but instead of going into hiding, the apostles followed the direction of the angel and went to the temple and again preached the words of life.

The council again arrested the apostles, and the high priest addressed them:

"Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man’s blood upon us. Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them." (Acts 5:28-33)

The council esteemed themselves highly, and were incensed with the brazenness of the apostles.  I imagine they were livid when they realized that killing Jesus had not stopped his disciples as they had hoped.

In spite of the voices on the council that sought to kill the apostles of Jesus, a calm and wise voice was found from a Pharisee named Gamaliel:

"Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed. And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God." (Acts 5:34-39)

Gamaliel's test was to let the apostles go, and if, as other movements, it were a fad, it would pass in time.  If, on the other hand, it were of God, then they should not place themselves in opposition to it.  The council agreed that this was a wise approach, and released the apostles, even though they could not resist beating them and threatening them further before their release.

About 2000 years later, it is safe to say that enough time has passed to analyze the results of Gamaliel's test, and draw a conclusion.

On the one hand, the apostles of Jesus were all killed or banished, and the few congregations that had started in various parts of Asia and Europe were relegated to running themselves blindly.  Corruption and confusion led uninspired men to make doctrinal decisions, and even when persecution had ended, the authority to act in the name of God had been lost, and some of the scriptures had been altered or disappeared.  Secularists tend to look at Christianity as a trendy movement, in which a teacher was posthumously elevated into a deity by some of his zealous followers, and that the enlightenment has brought mankind away from the cult of Christ.  They might argue that Christianity has failed Gamaliel's test.

On the other hand, those who clung to the teachings of Christ in spite of apostasy found motivation and inspiration.  What scriptures were kept drove passionate reformation efforts, and encouraged men to reawaken faith.  Men gave their lives so that others could read the teachings of Christ in their own tongues, and understand in their own languages, just as on the day of Pentecost.  Though authority was lost, Christian morality provided critical frameworks for morality and law in western civilization.  Even today, there are people all over the world who believe that Jesus Christ is the living Son of God.  It is difficult to deny that something more than the proverbs of a teacher have endured these 2000 years.

As much as skeptics deride the idea that Jesus is the actual Son of God, or that his message has contemporary value, perhaps the most convincing evidence that Christianity has passed Gamaliel's test can be found in the experience of a young boy in New England in 1820.  A tradition of faith in Christ had crossed oceans and become established in new continents.  An English Bible, a book for which men had sacrificed their lives to produce, was available even to an impoverished farm boy.  In spite of all the apostasy, the persecution, the deceptions, and the losses experienced by those ancient disciples of Christ, this boy came across a passage in James 1:5 -

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Just as on the day of Pentecost, the Spirit of God himself touched the heart.  That boy would later describe the experience as follows:

"Never did any passage of scripture come with more power to the heart of man than this did at this time to mine. It seemed to enter with great force into every feeling of my heart. I reflected on it again and again, knowing that if any person needed wisdom from God, I did; for how to act I did not know, and unless I could get more wisdom than I then had, I would never know..." (Joseph Smith - History 1:12)

The boy retired to a grove of trees near his home, and offered a prayer.  Centuries after his apostles had proclaimed that Jesus Christ was the Son of God, he again appeared with his Father.

Of course, the boy was Joseph Smith, who through his prophetic mantel, would help to restore that exact church that Jesus himself had founded anciently.  Ultimately, it is safe to say that the faith of Christ has not waned and faded as Theudas or Judas of Galilee...  It is alive and well today.  Instead of coming to nought, it has endured, and as Gamaliel suggested as a sign of divine providence... it could not be overthrown.

The prophet Joseph would later explain the correct conclusion to draw when applying Gamaliel's test:

"...no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every county and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done." (History of the Church 4:540)

Jesus is not gone.  He lives.  And he is coming to save us all.

Sunday, June 30, 2019

Ward Preacher Podcast Ep 027 - The Apostles of Christ

This week, the Come Follow Me curriculum brings us to Acts 1-5.  The vacancy in the 12 is filled, a miraculous witness on the day of Pentecost, Peter's unapologetic witness of Christ, and the consequences of keeping back part from God are the emphasis in our podcast.  Study with me!

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Sunday, April 14, 2019

Ward Preacher Podcast Ep 16 - The Fall and Rise of Jesus Christ

This week, the Come Follow Me curriculum covers the story of Easter.  We discuss this from the perspective of the Apostles, to whom the death of the Messiah was the worst case scenario.

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Sunday, April 7, 2019

Ward Preacher Podcast Ep 15 - The Big Changes from General Conference

Come Follow Me curriculum continues on the subject of the previous week, so this week's podcast is a little shorter, and discusses some thoughts regarding General Conference.

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Tuesday, March 12, 2019

Satire: "You worship Joseph Smith!" accuses man who worships the Apostle Paul

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Tom, an attendee of the Second Non-Denominational Church, took to social media this past Sunday to attack Stephen, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, accusing him of worshiping Joseph Smith.

"You aren't even Christian!" accused Tom.  "Your religion was started by Joseph Smith in the 1800's, not God!"

"Joseph Smith taught that mankind can only be saved through the atonement of Christ," replied Stephen.  "The most defining events of Joseph Smith's life are shaped by revelations and commandments that he received from Jesus Christ."

"You're so blinded by your devotion to Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon that you've missed the point of the Bible!" retorted Tom.  "Have you even read Romans?  Corinthians?  Galatians?  Ephesians?  How we are saved by grace, and not by works?"

"Yes," replied Stephen.  "And I believe that."

"You say you do... but Joseph Smith got started reading in the book of James!" said Tom.  "That's what your own missionaries teach!"

"... James is in the Bible too..." said Stephen.

"Of course a Mormon would say that!" said Tom.  "Paul didn't write that, so it's not really cannon!  And don't even get me started on the Old Testament!"

"Wait... not cannon?... they're legitimately in the Bible..." said Stephen.  "I thought you believed it was the infallible word of God..."

"What Paul wrote is the word of God..." explained Tom.  "I ripped the other bits out of my Bible."

"So... do you accept the Gospels?" asked Stephen.

"They give some context to help understand Paul," said Tom.  "He's the one who was transformed on the road to Damascus."

"Yeah... by Jesus..." said Stephen.

"Agree to disagree..." said Tom.  "And don't tell me what I believe!  I'm just saying that if you don't accept our Lord and Savior Paul, you can't be saved."

"You realize Paul spent his life preaching Jesus?" asked Stephen.

"Idiot Mormons... first Joseph Smith, now Jesus!" said Tom.  "You people are beyond saving!"

After the encounter Tom explained that he planned to return to worshiping Paul, and not a man like Mormons worship.

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Sunday, March 10, 2019

Ward Preacher Podcast Ep 11 - The Prince of Peace declares he is bringing a sword

This week's Come Follow Me curriculum covers Matthew 10-12, Mark 2, Luke 7, 11.

We emphasize the calling of Apostles, how the peace of Christ may not always be accompanied by peaceful circumstances, and why God rewards humble seekers of understanding.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2013

Is the Bible authoritative?





Is the Bible authoritative?

The answer to this question depends on the branch of Christianity.

The original church that Christ established existed before the Bible, which meant that the word of God was not a single closed book.  This is not to say they did not value scripture.  Matthew’s gospel points out that many Old Testament passages are fulfilled by Christ, and Paul discusses the value of the law in his numerous epistles. 

Scripture was not the ultimate authoritative source of guidance for Christ’s original church; the Apostles were.  They had authority to be witnesses of Christ and his gospel to all the world, and through guidance they received in the form of visions and revelations, they established new doctrines that directly contradicted established scriptural practices such as the dietary law of Moses, circumcision, Sabbath day observance, and so forth, while maintaining the spirit of the laws contained in the scriptures.

The leadership of the Apostles worked well until they were all caught and/or killed.  The remaining bishops in the church tried to maintain Christianity, but over time they began to disagree.  Eventually, the Roman emperor Constantine converted to Christianity and prohibited persecution of Christians in 313. Later Theodosius made Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire on 27 February 380.  The Bishop of Rome became known as the Pope, and from that time, the Papacy has claimed an unbroken line of authority that goes back to the Apostle Peter to whom Christ said “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” (Matthew 16:18)

The majority of Christians seemed satisfied with the authority of the Pope, but eventually, concerns were expressed when their actions seemed inconsistent with Biblical teachings.  Specifically, Martin Luther nailed 95 theses to the door of the Castle church in Wittenburg protesting the sale of indulgences, which basically amounted to certificates of forgiveness for sins.  Eventually, the dispute between Luther and Pope Leo X resulted in Luther being excommunicated from the Catholic Church.  Luther openly rejected the authority of the Pope, and instead demanded that his actions be proven wrong based on scripture.

For the Protestant movement to have authority after breaking away from the formerly accepted unbroken line of leadership in Catholicism, it was necessary that something besides the Pope be the authoritative guide for Christianity.  To this day, the Bible is that authoritative source for defining faith for Protestants.

So, on the one hand, Catholic authority derives from Papal claims, and the Bible does not need to be authoritative.  On the other, Protestants must use it as the authoritative source of Christianity.  There is a third group that differs from these two.  They can be called restorationists and they believe in a literal restoration of Apostolic authority.

The largest of these groups is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.  The story of their restoration begins with Joseph Smith.  Like Stephen in the New Testament, he saw God the Father and his son Jesus Christ.  Because the authority to lead the church had been lost with the Apostles, it needed to be restored at the hands of Apostles.  In 1829, Joseph Smith received this authority from Peter, James, and John.

The line of authority continues today with Apostles that stand as in the days of Jesus, guiding Christians with revealed truths.  Though restorationists teach that the Bible is the word of God, they follow the precedent in the Bible by proclaiming that God’s word is not a fixed or completed work, but that he guides us as he always has: through Apostles and Prophets.

For more information on restoration, see http://mormon.org/restoration.

Monday, February 11, 2013

Who is this 'Jesus' and what is his beef with gays?

The format of this post will be in the form of a conversation between a hypothetical individual that is a proponent of homosexual marriage and believes that homosexuality is natural and harmless.  This post may make some people angry, so I issue the following warning to proponents of homosexuality before proceeding:

Yes, it is judgmental to say that homosexuality is wrong.  It would also be judgmental for you to rush to the comments section to tell me my belief that certain behaviors are sinful is wrong.  This post was written in a hypothetical conversation to avoid a heated conversation with you.  This article is meant to be thought provoking... not argument provoking.  Before giving in to the impulse to tell me everything I may have forgotten to consider, or how you know that I am going to hell... please just consider the points that I have made.  If you are unable to control yourself, there are plenty of other blogs, articles, memes, and clever sayings that promote your point of view which are less likely to upset your delicate balance.  Please consider these sources instead of continuing on.

That having been said, the hypothetical proponent of homosexuality will present their points in italics.

Who is this 'Jesus' and what is his beef with gays?

Jesus is the son of God.  He created the heavens and the earth.  He also suffered unspeakable pain to provide a way for every human being to escape sin and death.  I would not say that Jesus has a vendetta against homosexuals.  He asks all people to cease committing sinful acts as a means of accepting his power to save us.  Homosexuality is one of an innumerable list of sinful acts.

You just think that being gay is wrong because of a less than 2000 year old book called the Bible... but even Christians that all claim to believe in the Bible can't agree on how to interpret it.

That is not the only reason we believe homosexuality is sinful, but scripture should certainly contribute to our stance.  It may be true that not all Christians agree on how to interpret the Bible, but the fundamental concepts that Jesus is the son of God and that through him all people can be saved are not disputed.

So you all believe in Jesus, but Jesus never said anything about homosexuality in the Bible.

You claim to read the Bible even though you discredit its contents?  I find that unlikely... but I suppose that's not important.  Of course you are meaning that the words of Christ as represented in the four Gospels do not explicitly define homosexuality as sinful.  Of course, prophets existed before Christ's mortal ministry that declared "thus saith the Lord" and spoke on behalf of Christ.  After his mortal ministry ended, he directed his Apostles to speak on his behalf.  In other words, prophets and apostles spoke in the name of Jesus when they condemned homosexuality.  (Leviticus 18:22, Romans 1:27)

But the law of Moses also condemned eating pork, and you do that...  Do you really think everything in the Old Testament still applies?

Of course not.  Christians do not practice animal sacrifice, even though it was explicitly commanded.  Also... pork is delicious.

And what about the New Testament?  Paul said that women should wear only modest clothes and be silent in 1 Timothy 2:9-15...  Do you believe that?

Is it so wrong to ask women not to dress like prostitutes?  Also, Paul was not singling out women only is his preaching, was he?  Have you read the rest of 1 Timothy?  Have you read the strict conditions he gave the men in the church?  To answer your question though, Christians do not typically believe that women must be silent.  I have no problem with women speaking.

So you're just picking and choosing which parts of the Bible you want to follow...  Why can't homosexuals ignore the verses that condemn what they naturally want to do?

So Christians are limited only to the Bible?  Is that what you think?  As you pointed out, it's less than 2000 years old, and people have been serving the Lord a lot longer than that.  As much as Christians love the Bible, it was possible for Peter and the early Apostles to be Christians without it.  It was also possible for Moses to follow Christ without it, and Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.  Before, during, and after the Bible, God spoke through prophets and apostles.  That hasn't gone away because we've "already had a bunch of them"...

So is that the Pope?  Is that someone else?  How do you know which prophet is right?

You ask that as if this is a new problem... as if true prophets were always easy to spot...  Jeremiah 23 is worth reading.  Also, there is a reason that Jesus told people to beware of false prophets (Matthew 7:15).  The existence of inconsistent sources does not mean there are no sources of God's word.

But you didn't answer my question... How do you know which prophet is right?

Following a prophet is always a matter of faith... but God can help.  (James 1:5-6)  Prayer should always be a part of the process.  Think also of how Peter became convinced that Jesus was the actual son of God... (Matthew 16:17-18)  Or how the disciples on the road to Emmaus perceived that they had spoken to the resurrected Lord by saying that their hearts "burned within them"? (Luke 24:32)

If I am supposed to follow my feelings, then I don't feel like there's anything wrong with being gay.  What harm does it do?

That is exactly the reason that God still uses prophets instead of explicitly telling every person everything.  By choosing a small number of individuals as prophets and communicating a lot to them, and only communicating to you who is a prophet, God creates an environment that rewards those that seek him.  The point of revelation was never to learn every detail about every behavior, thought, or deed...  It is to help identify a source that represents divine knowledge.  The requirement for faith or need to work together is maintained in this environment.

You didn't answer my question again.  What, specifically, is harmful about homosexuality?

Well, what if I told you that homosexual acts cause tremendous suffering, but it is not immediately detectable?

That's not specific.

We'll get to the specifics in a moment, first, how do you know something is harmful?

Visible negative effects prove something is harmful.

That's the real issue then, isn't it?  Whether or not something can be perceived doesn't necessarily mean it is or isn't harmful.  Being unable to see a sniper does not make him less lethal.

That's a bad example.  You can immediately see the negative effects of a sniper after he shoots someone.  You can't see any immediate negative effects from homosexuals.

How about radiation?  How about other diseases?  Handling objects that are contaminated with these things may not cause immediate harm, but over time, they do.

Yes, but we know through scientific methods about how these things are harmful...

So before scientific methods were discovered, were these things still harmful?

Yes.

So you're saying that we have discovered every method for perceiving things that are harmful?  If I can't immediately show you the harm of something, it is not harmful?

Well...

Or what about things that can appear subjectively harmful.  Take smoking and drinking.  Science tells us that these habits increase the risk of organ failure or cancer, however, I have met elderly individuals that have smoked and drank for their lives and appear to live in relative comfort.  Does that mean smoking and drinking is not harmful to some individuals?

Well...

Also, how harmful does something have to be in order to be bad?  A person that undergoes a surgical procedure accepts a degree of risk, and accepts that instruments will be used to damage their bodies.  Of course, they are hoping that the end result will help more than it will harm... but is accepting the harm wrong?

That's a different kind of harm...  It's more like potential harm or risk...  Humanity doesn't stay in plastic bubbles because things *might* be harmful.

But when you asked me to prove specifically that something is visibly harmful, you didn't communicate any of these details that might affect that.  Also, do you look both ways before crossing the street?  Do you reduce your speed when driving on icy roads?  Do you fasten your safety belt?  You probably already do things to protect yourself against potential harm.

I don't see a potential harm in letting homosexuals marry...

I don't see a harm in leaving the marriage laws alone...  How can you be certain you are seeing the greater harm?

Don't shift the burden of proof to me... You said you had a specific example...

True enough.  Jesus Christ is the example.

What?  What does that even mean?

Jesus Christ suffered because of the sins of all individuals.  In other words, every thought, word, and deed that was wrong that ever was or ever will be done exacted a physical harmful toll on Jesus Christ.  The pressure was so intense that blood squeezed through his skin.  (Luke 22:44)  I would say that Jesus is uniquely qualified to be able to tell us what is and isn't sinful because he suffered for all sins.

Yes, well, I don't believe in Jesus...  Prove to me in some other way that homosexuality is bad.

You believe that mankind is the result of evolutionary processes?

Yes.  I don't believe in creationism; We evolved.

Fine then.  So you're saying that the processes whereby mankind has become the dominant species on the planet are mutations and natural selection?

That's right.

So is homosexuality a natural mutation?

I believe it's natural.  I think that Christians only call it bad because they are clinging to their traditions about Jesus, when there is no evidence that Jesus was divine.

The divinity of Christ is a separate conversation, so for the sake of our conversation, let's pretend that you're right about the origins of humanity.  Let's pretend that humans are an advanced animal that is more fit to survive than other animals.  How can homosexuality be a natural positive force if it drives individuals toward behavior that will prevent them from passing on their genetic code to future generations?

I... well...

So if it doesn't contribute to the fitness of an organism, the mutation must be called a disorder.

I never thought of it like that...

And if it is a disorder, than it would be in the best interest of our species to call it and treat it as such... right?

But what if it's nature's way of controlling the human population because we are abusing the earth?

So you're saying that homosexuals have been selected by nature to be removed from the gene pool?  You're saying that nature has declared them unfit to pass on their genetics?

When you say it like that it sounds kinda bad...

Ultimately, homosexuality is either wrong on religious grounds, or it is a disorder on evolutionary grounds.  Am I missing any options?

Yes, you're a bully and Jesus said not to judge others.

You're saying I'm a hypocrite because I am saying other people are sinful?  I will concede that point.  Only Jesus Christ was sinless.  That doesn't mean that I'm wrong though, and it certainly doesn't mean that I need to accept sinful behavior for the sake of consistency.  It does mean that I should try and be less hypocritical myself by repenting of my sins.

Yeah, so take that bully!  You're a judgmental person because you think homosexuality is bad!  Also, judgmental people will go to hell!

You don't see any irony or hypocrisy in what you're saying?

I see your point.  I will now rethink how I approach Christians who object to homosexuality.



Ok, so I've never heard anyone change their position, and I doubt a blog post by an obscure and abrasive guy is going to actually make anyone rethink their position or approach.  One way or the other, it is becoming more important for Christians to understand their own beliefs.  Anyone that truthfully wishes to follow Jesus should be a bit more comprehensive in their quest than a few bible references from memes or clever sayings from protest banners.  Religion is not something to throw out when it challenges your views... religion should be the defining belief system that guides and governs all aspects of one's life.  Find out for yourself using all of your resources what God thinks... because God is never wrong.

Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Why can't God speak for himself?

"For he that receiveth my servants receiveth me; And he that receiveth me receiveth my Father; And he that receiveth my Father receiveth my Father’s kingdom..."  (D&C 84:36-38)

The quotation above implies a lot of receiving of people that represent God.  The Son of God is the one speaking, and he indicates that other servants must be accepted in order to gain entrance to the Kingdom of God.  Careful thought might lead a person to wonder why he would do this though.

Why does God insist on speaking by proxy?  If God is our Heavenly Father, why would he not speak to his children directly?  Why are only some of them considered his "servants" and eligible to hear the word of God from its source?  Why use prophets?  Why use the Only Begotten Son to speak, if he is capable of speaking himself?

The traditions of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all embrace God's practice of speaking through prophets.  All three religions accept prophets such as Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Israel, and Moses.  The Old Testament contains numerous accounts from even minor prophets that had short messages for their contemporaries from the Most High including Habakkuk, Joel, Zephaniah, and Malachi.  In fact, traditions that do not include prophets have much more recent origins.

When protestant movements against the Catholic church began, it became logically necessary for protestants to find a connection to God that did not involve the clergy of the church.  From these roots came the philosophy that all people have access to God directly, and no Pope, Cardinal, Bishop, or Deacon was required to maintain it.  Why else would God ask individuals to pray to him if not to establish an individual basis for repentance and revelation?

With the spread of protestant philosophies, many people have concluded that there is really no need for prophets any longer.  Some even point to passages in the Bible that seem to indicate as much: "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John." (Matthew 11:13)  This passage tends to indicate that the prophets ended with John the Baptist, whose special assignment was to prepare the way for the coming of the Son of God himself.  Indeed, after the coming of Christ many things changed.  Since it was no longer necessary to perform animal sacrifices, was it not possible that prophets were no longer necessary with the arrival of the Messiah?

Of course, the logic of such thought is not thorough.  To the point of the reference in Matthew, the preceding verse adds the context of "until now" to the time frame.  Also, if prophecy was no longer vital, then why would Christ have ordained Apostles to be special witnesses?  His charge to them at the end of Matthew is as follows:
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."  (Matthew 28:19-20)

If the need for messengers to speak for God had ended, Christ would not have returned to his Apostles to give them such an assignment.  They were specifically instructed to go throughout the world and represent him in a leadership capacity.  The missionary efforts of the early Apostles are documented to some degree in the remainder of the New Testament, and contain their words with the same degree of reverence as the Old Testament did its prophets.  The truth is, God's pattern of calling individuals to represent him to the public at large had not ended... in fact, it had expanded to a world-wide effort.

Understanding the purpose for God's extensive use of representation in his dealings with men requires an understanding of the purpose of life.  If God's purpose were simply to find out who among humans were good and reward them with eternal life in his presence beyond the pearly gates, then there would be absolutely no reason to use prophets.  He could stand on top of a mountain and project his voice for all to hear, proclaiming himself his desire for us to be good. 

In fact, since God is omniscient, he does not need to send anyone to earth to live lives where we experience pain, sickness, frailty, cruelty, hunger, thirst, fatigue, and ultimately death.  He would already know who will be naughty and nice.  Why not make Minority Report real and spare people the pains and difficulties associated with life by implementing a pre-crime policy?

Of course, God's purpose is not just to send good people to heaven and damn the bad people to hell.  Entrance to the kingdom of God requires more than avoiding sinful choices.  It is meant for people who have become something...

Jesus taught a parable regarding a master that travelled to a far country and bestowed upon his servants varying numbers of talents.  (Matthew 25:14-30)  To one servant he gave five talents, to another he gave two talents, and to a third he gave one talent.  The servants that worked hard to increase what their Lord had given them were rewarded, but the servant who had buried his single talent for fear of losing it was cast out.

The parable gives understanding regarding the purpose of life.  God expects us to use what we have been given to become more than we are.  There are numerous references in the scriptures to the process of sanctification which include language such as "overcome" (Revelation 3:21), "endure" (2 Nephi 31:20), being "refined", "purged", "purified". (Malachi 3:2-3)

With this understanding, God's apparent absence when it comes to speaking for himself is not because of a lack of concern for mankind.  He does not employ servants to declare the word of the Lord because he is too busy, or because he enjoys giving cryptic orders... 

He wants us to stay in the scenario where we will best learn.  He has created a world with sorrow and pain in the hopes that people will learn to care for one another.  He has created a world where injustice and unfairness thrive in the hopes that people will learn to embrace goodness and decry evil.  He has created a world where his children have physical bodies that naturally entice people to indulge in lust, envy, wrath, gluttony, pride, sloth, and greed, and he has sent prophets to encourage people to have faith that there is something greater than these instincts.

The use of prophets requires faith not only of those that hear their words, but also the prophets themselves.  Consider how worried Moses was that the people would hate him for his slow speech.  (Exodus 4:10)  Enoch also struggled with feelings of inadequacy.  (Moses 6:31)  Jonah doubted his mission entirely, fleeing from it. (Jonah 1:3)  Many prophets and Apostles have been called to risk their lives to deliver their messages (Daniel 3, Jeremiah 20:2, Acts 20:22-24), and many prophets and Apostles have given their lives rather than rescind their messages. (Mosiah 17, Acts 7)

For those of us that are not called to speak for God to all the world, faith is required to believe in their words.  People that have heeded the messages of those called to speak for God have become more humble, more faithful, and ultimately become more eligible to become heirs of the Kingdom of God.  There are three basic tasks that all people who believe in God should undertake in light of this:

1. Seek a prophet of God.  While it is true that Christ warned against false prophets (Matthew 24:11), God has not abandoned communicating mankind.  Those that sought Christ did well in New Testament times to seek the council of his Apostles, just as Kings did well when they sought the word of the Lord from men of God in Old Testament times.  Contemporarily, mankind does itself a great disservice if we believe that God no longer employs servants to speak on his behalf.  What reasons would God have not to speak to us?  Is it because he cannot?  Christians believe that God's power has not waned with the passing of time.  Is it because he no longer cares for us?  Christians accept that God's love and mercy are strong today.  Is it because we no longer need him?  It can be observed that we need him now more than ever.  (See President Hugh B. Brown, Conference Report, October 1967, Third Day—Morning Meeting 118)

If Christians conlude that God does speak, then is it not the responsibility of Christians to find a way to hear his words and do his will?  Relying solely on the words of ancient prophets was clearly not the right choice in the days of the Apostles, why should Christians be content with the Bible only... particularly when there are such widely varying interpretations and understandings of the same book?

Of course, the problem of discord regarding scriptural interpretation affects the ability to recognize a prophet.  How can a person know if they have found a prophet of God?

The most fundamental teachings of Christ stir the feelings of Christians.  There is a recognition of truth that all people have to varying degrees when they hear the word of God.  "That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name..." (John 1:9-12)  Using the light of Christ, or our natural ability to recognize general truth, a person can recognize basic truths taught by prophets.  Do they encourage faith, repentence, and humility?  Do they testify of Christ?  Practicing these principles bring us closer to God, and increase the ability of individuals to recognize his will and his words.  Ultimately, they help us conclude whether a person is a prophet of God.

2. Sustain the Prophet.  In the Old Testament, God chose Moses to be his prophet.  It became the responsibility of the people to accept and sustain him as he directed them according to the will of God himself.  Typically, this involved simply not rebelling against him, which was too hard for some of the people to do. (Numbers 16)  In some cases, sustaining the prophet was more literal than figurative.  In fighting against the Amalekites, Moses stood up on a hill while Joshua and the men of Israel fought.  He held up his hands and the rod of God, and so long as he held up his hands, the Israelites prevailed.  As he grew weary and his hands began to fall, the Amalekites began to prevail.  Aaron and Hur, attempting to sustain the prophet, prepared a stone on which they seated him.  They sat on either side of him and helped him hold up his hands, keeping him steady until the sun set and Israel had won the victory.  (Exodus 17)

Once a person has learned of God that a particular person is a prophet, or is authorized to speak for God, they may find that the prophet will ask them to do or to believe things that may be difficult.  Whether it is to give service, to give time, to teach an intimidating group of students, to speak publicly, or to accept a doctrine that may not seem to be in harmony with popular culture, the question of sustaining the prophet is always central to the request.

Ultimately, if a person is speaking for God, those that do not sustain the prophet refuse to support God.

3. Understand when a prophet is not a prophet.  For members of the LDS church, there is a clear order in which revelation is given.  The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles represent the highest authority to speak generally and use every Priesthood Key.  These special witnesses of Christ are called to speak for him.  The duration of their roles in active church leadership is limited by their mortality, and in some cases, by their dissent.  In the years shortly after the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was organized, there were some Apostles who left the church and fought against the prophet Joseph Smith, even though they had received witnesses that he spoke with God himself.  Obviously, they forfeited their roles in receiving revelation for church members, just as Judas Iscariot forfeited his role as an Apostle when he betrayed Christ himself.

In addition to General Authorities, who have the ability to speak for God to all people generally, there are Area Authorities, who are called to speak for God in harmony with General Authorities, but on a smaller scope.  There are also Authorities that speak for smaller divisions such as Stake Presidents, Bishops, Elders Quorum Presidents, Teachers Quorum Presidents, and Deacons Quorum Presidents.  Parents have the divine mandate to teach their children to follow Christ in harmony with all those that speak for God.  This is no doubt the reason that God has commanded us to honor our Father and Mother.  All individuals fall under the stewardship of some prophets. 

If there is any doubt as to whether a prophet or individual is acting as a prophet, examining whether there are conflicts between local and general authorities can help resolve these concerns.  If there are no conflicts, it is the responsibility of individuals to sustain them all.  If there are conflicts, it is the responsibility of individuals to understand the conflicts by first speaking with their local leaders.  Typically, perceived conflicts are only misunderstandings, but if differences cannot be resolved, communiciating with leaders that have larger scopes of authority can help to clarify and correct.

It is important to note that prophets are human beings, and that they have their own set of opinions that may not represent the positions of God.  Such views might include political leanings, dietary choices, literature preferences, financial choices, or scientific predictions.  For example, finding out and emulating what an Apostle may own in stocks or other investments is not a guarantee of personal money making.

Conversely, when an Apostle speaks in General Conference and asks people to pray, or to increase the time they spend with their family, or to oppose ideas that marginalize the role of marriage, parental responsibility, or family values, these are not just opinions.  These directions represent the will of God. 

If a person truly believes that a prophet or a church does not adhere to the will of God, they ought to ask themselves if they should continue participating in that church or with that prophet, however, it is important to use caution.  Remember the parable of the sower.  (Matthew 13)  The cares of the world or insufficient investment are not just causes to forsake the Kingdom of God.  (Matthew 13:18-22)

Jesus taught "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." (Matthew 7:7-8) 

Perhaps the most time-honored method for seeking God outside of prayer and scripture study is to seek out his prophets and Apostles.  The last words of Christ's parable of the rich man and Lazarus speak literal truths regarding the importance of prophets in Christianity:
"Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." (Luke 16:27-31)

Ultimately, when he returns, he will hold individuals accountable for their effort or lack of effort in finding, sustaining, and understanding his chosen prophets and Apostles.  "Why didn't you tell me yourself?" will not be a valid excuse, and will likely be answered with "why didn't you believe my servants that I sent?"  The importance and benefits of finding all possible connections to one who is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent should be obvious.  In the end, God will speak for himself to everyone, but it will be far better for those who have recognized and heeded those he has sent to declare his word.